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SimsZilla
Posts : 118 Join date : 2007-09-07
| Subject: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:54 pm | |
| skins get: Mushin Muhhamad - 86 WR Brandon Marshall - 80 WR
panthers get: Jon Jansen - 90 RT
i agree. i guess | |
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nieemo
Posts : 113 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:56 pm | |
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Brianeal23
Posts : 65 Join date : 2007-09-06
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:15 pm | |
| I like this trade, good or even decent WR's are hard to come by and a good OT is definately a fair trade for a veteran good WR and a young up and coming WR. | |
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SimsZilla
Posts : 118 Join date : 2007-09-07
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:49 am | |
| wait one sec. nieemo can i have derrick mason instead of mushin muhhamad | |
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SimsZilla
Posts : 118 Join date : 2007-09-07
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:51 am | |
| mason is 85 and musin is 86. so ur getting a better deal | |
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mksadng Admin
Posts : 156 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:17 pm | |
| This trade is unfair. WRs are hard to get and OT well arent hard to get... | |
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poeticpyro Admin
Posts : 141 Join date : 2007-09-03 Age : 37 Location : Orlando, FL
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:23 pm | |
| I think its fair, and I also think your logic is way off.
OL are a LOT harder to get then WRs. Go and count the number of lets say, 89+ WRs and the number of 89+ OLs.
Its a LOT harder to come by lineman then it is to come by WRs. Maybe not SPEEDY WRs, but WR in general are much easier to come by. | |
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mksadng Admin
Posts : 156 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:26 pm | |
| - poeticpyro wrote:
- I think its fair, and I also think your logic is way off.
OL are a LOT harder to get then WRs. Go and count the number of lets say, 89+ WRs and the number of 89+ OLs.
Its a LOT harder to come by lineman then it is to come by WRs. Maybe not SPEEDY WRs, but WR in general are much easier to come by. Yes but who go for more? WRs or OLs? WRs go for A LOT more then OL. | |
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SimsZilla
Posts : 118 Join date : 2007-09-07
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:34 pm | |
| so does it get aprroved soon | |
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lebronzoom Admin
Posts : 261 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:41 pm | |
| - mksadng wrote:
- poeticpyro wrote:
- I think its fair, and I also think your logic is way off.
OL are a LOT harder to get then WRs. Go and count the number of lets say, 89+ WRs and the number of 89+ OLs.
Its a LOT harder to come by lineman then it is to come by WRs. Maybe not SPEEDY WRs, but WR in general are much easier to come by. Yes but who go for more? WRs or OLs? WRs go for A LOT more then OL. Moose is also like a million years old | |
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mksadng Admin
Posts : 156 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:42 pm | |
| - lebronzoom wrote:
- mksadng wrote:
- poeticpyro wrote:
- I think its fair, and I also think your logic is way off.
OL are a LOT harder to get then WRs. Go and count the number of lets say, 89+ WRs and the number of 89+ OLs.
Its a LOT harder to come by lineman then it is to come by WRs. Maybe not SPEEDY WRs, but WR in general are much easier to come by. Yes but who go for more? WRs or OLs? WRs go for A LOT more then OL. Moose is also like a million years old Jansons pretty old to and Marshall is a young WR, I vote no to this trade. | |
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SoxNats07
Posts : 157 Join date : 2007-09-03 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:10 pm | |
| - mksadng wrote:
- lebronzoom wrote:
- mksadng wrote:
- poeticpyro wrote:
- I think its fair, and I also think your logic is way off.
OL are a LOT harder to get then WRs. Go and count the number of lets say, 89+ WRs and the number of 89+ OLs.
Its a LOT harder to come by lineman then it is to come by WRs. Maybe not SPEEDY WRs, but WR in general are much easier to come by. Yes but who go for more? WRs or OLs? WRs go for A LOT more then OL. Moose is also like a million years old Jansons pretty old to and Marshall is a young WR, I vote no to this trade. i agree completely with mksadng here, i am voting no. | |
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silvablitz
Posts : 19 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:55 pm | |
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mksadng Admin
Posts : 156 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:56 pm | |
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titans0021
Posts : 77 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:18 pm | |
| Wow you guys are getting really picky.
Muhammed is ancient and is only an 86 who will either retire at the end of the season or go down to like an 82. Marshall is a young, decent WR who can get better but he is only 80 overall.
90+ OT's are tough to get in Madden and its not as though Jansen is really old.
This trade is almost right down the middle and to decline it is kind of sad. | |
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mksadng Admin
Posts : 156 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:39 pm | |
| - titans0021 wrote:
- Wow you guys are getting really picky.
Muhammed is ancient and is only an 86 who will either retire at the end of the season or go down to like an 82. Marshall is a young, decent WR who can get better but he is only 80 overall.
90+ OT's are tough to get in Madden and its not as though Jansen is really old.
This trade is almost right down the middle and to decline it is kind of sad. No their not... almost every team has a 90 plus OT and 5-6 teams have 2 | |
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titans0021
Posts : 77 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:49 pm | |
| Their are 19 90+ OT in Madden and 18 90+ WRs, just thought I'd point that out | |
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poeticpyro Admin
Posts : 141 Join date : 2007-09-03 Age : 37 Location : Orlando, FL
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:08 am | |
| thats why I said 89+, cause I know there aren't that many 90+ WRs.
a WR can be amazingly good at the 85+ mark, while you look at G/T/C at 85-86 and they blow.
Anyways, at the 89+ mark it looks like this:
89+ WR = 24
89+ C = 10 89+ G = 19 89+ T = 23 | |
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titans0021
Posts : 77 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:13 am | |
| I know pyro, thats why i'm saying this should be approved.
It's a 90 OT for a very very old 86 WR and an 80 young WR, | |
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SimsZilla
Posts : 118 Join date : 2007-09-07
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:30 am | |
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mksadng Admin
Posts : 156 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:47 pm | |
| - poeticpyro wrote:
- thats why I said 89+, cause I know there aren't that many 90+ WRs.
a WR can be amazingly good at the 85+ mark, while you look at G/T/C at 85-86 and they blow.
Anyways, at the 89+ mark it looks like this:
89+ WR = 24
89+ C = 10 89+ G = 19 89+ T = 23 no they cant, not in simulation. look at soxnats league and look at the top 10 receivers, what do they all have in common? they're all 90+. WRs are valued much higher then offensive lineman thats just the way it is and i know for a fact he could get a 90 OT and an 85 OG for those two receivers. | |
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poeticpyro Admin
Posts : 141 Join date : 2007-09-03 Age : 37 Location : Orlando, FL
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:12 pm | |
| thats crazy.
If you show me ANY NFL team that would give up a 90 OT and an 85 OG for a decent receiver and I'll show you the Detroit Lions and their losing record.
Look in next years draft and tell me how many pretty damn good WRs come out and how many OL period come out that are considered to be good, let alone decent.
OL is MUCH more valuable in football. You can have great WR talent on your team (Arizona/Detroit/Houston) and have no line and look at the results.. | |
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mksadng Admin
Posts : 156 Join date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Re: Panthers - Skins trade(Denied) Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:52 pm | |
| - poeticpyro wrote:
- thats crazy.
If you show me ANY NFL team that would give up a 90 OT and an 85 OG for a decent receiver and I'll show you the Detroit Lions and their losing record.
Look in next years draft and tell me how many pretty damn good WRs come out and how many OL period come out that are considered to be good, let alone decent.
OL is MUCH more valuable in football. You can have great WR talent on your team (Arizona/Detroit/Houston) and have no line and look at the results.. THIS IS MADDEN!!!! Yes obviously in the NFL games are won with OL and DL BUT NOT IN MADDEN. A good WR core alone can make you a playoff team in madden. Your thinking about this reallife wise not madden wise. | |
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